Key Takeaways
- There is no separate refugee visa for an Indonesian who is already in Australia. The application is a Subclass 866 protection visa, decided on the statutory refugee test in the Migration Act 1958.
- The visas with refugee in the name are the offshore Subclass 200, Subclass 201, Subclass 203 and Subclass 204 visas, plus the Subclass 202 Global Special Humanitarian visa. All of them are granted to people outside Australia, and the Subclass 202 visa also requires the applicant to be living outside their home country and to have a proposer in Australia.
- Referral by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees matters only to the offshore program. It plays no part in a Subclass 866 application, and nobody in Australia needs to be recognised as a refugee by any agency before applying.
- The refugee definition that decides the case is in section 5H of the Migration Act 1958, not the Refugee Convention text. Section 5J requires a real chance of persecution for a protected reason, relating to all areas of the country, where the protected reason is the essential and significant reason for the harm.
- Section 5J(3) means an applicant cannot be required to hide a characteristic that is innate, immutable or fundamental to identity or conscience, including religion, political belief, sexual orientation and gender identity.
- Conduct can disqualify an otherwise genuine claim. Section 5H(2) excludes war crimes, serious non-political crimes committed before entering Australia and acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations, and section 36(1C) refuses the visa where the applicant is a danger to Australia's security or, having been convicted of a particularly serious crime, is a danger to the Australian community.
- A spouse or child can be granted a protection visa as a member of the same family unit under section 36(2)(b) or section 36(2)(c), but section 91WB requires them to have applied for the same class of protection visa before the visa is granted to the person with the claim.
Is there a refugee visa for Indonesian citizens in Australia?
No. There is no separate refugee visa for an Indonesian who is already in Australia, and the application is a Subclass 866 protection visa decided on the statutory refugee test in the Migration Act 1958.
The word refugee is doing a lot of work in ordinary speech and almost none in the application itself. Australia does have visas with refugee in the name. They belong to the offshore Refugee and Humanitarian Program, they are applied for from outside Australia, and they cannot be lodged by a person standing in Sydney, Melbourne or Perth. The onshore pathway has one door. It is the protection visa, and for a person who arrived with a valid visa the subclass is 866.
So an Indonesian searching for a refugee visa is usually searching for the right thing under the wrong name. The test that decides the case is still the refugee test. It sits in sections 5H to 5LA of the Migration Act, and it is applied to a Subclass 866 application. Our complete guide to the Subclass 866 protection visa covers the visa itself, and our Subclass 866 protection visa page sets out the service.
What is the difference between a refugee visa and a protection visa?
The difference is where you are when you apply, and who decides you are a refugee.
The offshore refugee category visas are the Subclass 200 Refugee visa, the Subclass 201 In-country Special Humanitarian visa, the Subclass 203 Emergency Rescue visa and the Subclass 204 Woman at Risk visa. The Subclass 200 and Subclass 203 visas are for people referred to Australia by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees for resettlement. The Subclass 204 visa is for women without the protection of a partner or relative who are in danger of victimisation, and it can be reached by referral from the Commissioner or by proposal from a close family member in Australia. The Subclass 201 visa is the narrow exception for people still living in their own country who have been unable to leave.
Alongside them sits the Subclass 202 Global Special Humanitarian visa, for people subject to substantial discrimination amounting to a gross violation of human rights in their home country. It requires the applicant to be outside Australia and living outside their home country, and it requires a proposer who is an Australian citizen, a permanent resident, an eligible New Zealand citizen or an organisation based in Australia.
Every one of those visas is granted to someone outside Australia. None of them is available to a person who is already here.
The Subclass 866 protection visa is the opposite. You must be in Australia to apply, and clause 866.411 of the Migration Regulations 1994 requires you to be in Australia when the visa is granted. Nobody refers you. There is no queue and no waiting list. You lodge the application yourself, and a delegate of the Minister decides whether Australia owes you protection obligations.
Can an Indonesian apply for a refugee visa from inside Indonesia?
Realistically, no. The only refugee category visa that contemplates an applicant still inside their own country is the Subclass 201 In-country Special Humanitarian visa, and it is used sparingly and in defined circumstances. The main offshore pathways assume the person has already left. The Subclass 202 visa expressly requires the applicant to be living outside their home country, and the Subclass 200 and Subclass 203 visas run through referral by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.
This matters because of a pattern we see constantly. A person in Indonesia who is genuinely at risk searches for a way to apply to Australia, finds the refugee visas, and waits for an answer that is never coming. Meanwhile a family member or a friend already in Australia on a student or visitor visa, who may be in the same danger for the same reason, has a live pathway and does not know it.
The practical position is simple. Protection is decided onshore for people who are onshore. If you are in Indonesia, the Subclass 866 protection visa is not available to you at all, and the offshore program does not take direct applications from inside the country except in the limited in-country category.
Does the Refugee Convention decide your case, or does Australian law?
Australian law decides it. Since the refugee definition was written into the Migration Act, the question is no longer whether you meet the Refugee Convention definition in the abstract. It is whether you meet the definition in section 5H, as qualified by sections 5J, 5K, 5L, 5LA and 36.
That is not a technicality. Applicants and overseas advisers routinely argue an Indonesian claim in Convention language, quoting the 1951 text and international commentary, and never address the statutory elements the decision maker is required to work through. The delegate does not decide whether you are a refugee in an international sense. The delegate decides whether the elements in section 5J are satisfied, whether any exclusion in section 5H(2) applies, and whether section 36(1C) prevents the grant.
Write the claim in the language of the sections. A claim built on statutory elements can be quoted back by the decision maker. A claim built on Convention rhetoric has to be translated first, and things are lost in translation.
Who can lodge a Subclass 866 protection visa application?
You can lodge if you are a non-citizen physically in Australia and no bar applies to you. You do not need to hold a visa, and an unlawful non-citizen can make a valid application.
Three provisions stop an application before the merits are reached. Section 48A prevents a further protection visa application in Australia once a protection visa application has been refused, and only the Minister can lift that bar under section 48B. Section 46A bars unauthorised maritime arrivals unless the Minister personally lifts it, which rarely touches Indonesian nationals because they almost always arrive by air. Sections 91W and 91WA deal with identity and nationality documents, and they require an unfavourable credibility conclusion where a person refuses a request for evidence of identity or produces a bogus document without reasonable explanation.
Everything else people worry about is not a bar. The visa you hold, the visa you have overstayed, an earlier refusal of a visitor or student visa, and a no further stay condition are all dealt with later in this article. Our article on applying for a protection visa in Australia sets out the sequence, and our step by step ImmiAccount guide covers the account you need before anything can be lodged.
Can your partner and children be included in the same application?
Yes, and the timing rule is strict enough to be worth stating plainly.
Under section 36(2)(b) and section 36(2)(c), a member of the same family unit of a person who engages Australia's protection obligations can be granted a protection visa of the same class, without having to prove their own claim. Under regulation 1.12 a member of the family unit includes a spouse or de facto partner, a dependent child of either of them, and certain dependent relatives who live in the household.
The trap is section 91WB. To be granted a protection visa on family unit grounds, the family member must have applied for the same class of protection visa before the visa was granted to the person with the claim. A spouse who marries afterwards, or who lodges afterwards, cannot be picked up that way. If the Indonesian family in Australia is going to apply together, they apply together at the start.
Family members can also run their own claims, and sometimes they should, because their exposure in Indonesia is different from the main applicant's.
What does the refugee definition in section 5H require?
Section 5H(1) says a person is a refugee if they are outside their country of nationality, they have a well-founded fear of persecution, and they are unable or unwilling to avail themselves of the protection of that country because of that fear.
Three things follow for an Indonesian applicant, and each one is a separate hurdle.
You must be outside Indonesia. Being in Australia satisfies this, whatever visa you hold or held.
The fear must be well founded within the meaning of section 5J. This is the engine of the whole definition and it has its own internal elements.
You must be unable or unwilling to seek Indonesia's protection. Unwillingness has to be explained by the fear itself, not by frustration with Indonesian bureaucracy or a preference for living in Australia.
A claim that names the harm but never works through these elements gives the delegate nothing to be satisfied about. Section 5AAA puts the burden squarely on the applicant to specify all particulars of the claim and to provide sufficient evidence.
What makes a fear of persecution well founded under section 5J?
Section 5J(1) requires three things at once. The person must fear persecution for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion. There must be a real chance of that persecution occurring if they returned. And the real chance must relate to all areas of the country.
Real chance is not the same as probability. A chance can be real without being more likely than not. That is a generous threshold and it is the reason many Indonesian claims survive the first stage.
The definition then tightens. Section 5J(4) says the persecution must involve serious harm and must be systematic and discriminatory conduct. Section 5J(5) lists instances of serious harm, including a threat to life or liberty, significant physical harassment, significant physical ill treatment, significant economic hardship that threatens capacity to subsist, denial of access to basic services where that threatens capacity to subsist, and denial of capacity to earn a livelihood where that threatens capacity to subsist.
Section 5J(6) adds the causation rule that quietly decides a great many Indonesian cases. The reason for the persecution must be the essential and significant reason for it. A land dispute, a business falling out or a family money quarrel does not become a refugee claim because the other side happens to be of a different religion or ethnicity. The protected reason has to be doing the work.
What is a particular social group, and when does an Indonesian claim need one?
A particular social group is the category that catches claims where the harm is not about race, religion, nationality or political opinion. For Indonesian applicants it is the category that carries sexual orientation and gender identity claims, many family and gender-based claims, and claims about people who have left a faith.
Section 5L sets out when a person is a member of a particular social group other than the family. The group must share a characteristic. The characteristic must not be a fear of persecution. It must be innate or immutable, or so fundamental to identity or conscience that the person should not be forced to renounce it, or it must otherwise distinguish the group from society. And the characteristic must set the group apart from society in the country concerned.
Two practical points come out of that.
The group cannot be defined by the harm. Indonesians who fear being attacked is not a particular social group, because the shared characteristic is the fear itself. Women in a particular family, or people who have converted from Islam to Christianity, can be.
The group has to be recognisable in Indonesia, not in Australia. The evidence has to show that Indonesian society itself treats the characteristic as setting the person apart. Our pages on protection visas based on religious persecution and on LGBTI protection visas deal with the two group types we see most often from Indonesia, and our article on LGBTI protection visas in Australia sets out what those claims have to prove.
Does the persecution have to come from the Indonesian government?
No. Harm from a family, a neighbourhood, a hardline group, an employer or a criminal actor counts. What changes when the persecutor is not the state is that the claim has to deal with state protection.
Section 5J(2) says a fear is not well founded if effective protection measures are available to the person in Indonesia. Section 5LA defines those measures. They are available where protection against persecution could be provided by the state, or by a party or organisation including an international organisation that controls the state or a substantial part of its territory, and where the state has an appropriate criminal law, a reasonably effective police force and an impartial judicial system, and the person can access that protection.
Indonesia has criminal laws, a national police force and courts. An assertion that the police will not help does not survive contact with that section. What survives is evidence. Reports that were made and went nowhere. Police who were themselves the source of the harm. Officials enforcing local regulations that make the feared conduct unlawful. A legal system that cannot assist because what the applicant fears is itself lawful or required under the law in force.
Can you be told to move to another part of Indonesia?
Yes, and for Indonesian applicants this is the single most dangerous element of section 5J.
Section 5J(1)(c) requires the real chance of persecution to relate to all areas of Indonesia. Indonesia has thousands of islands and dozens of provinces, and the decision maker knows it. The question is put bluntly. Why not Jakarta. Why not Surabaya. Why not Bali.
A claim that does not answer relocation has not been finished, and silence is read as an answer. The responses that work are specific and evidenced. The threat has reach beyond the home province because the family, group or official looking for the applicant can find them elsewhere. The identity card system records religion and residence and makes a person traceable. The source of the harm is a national law rather than a local one, so a move changes nothing. Or relocation is not reasonable for this applicant given age, health, language, dependants or the total absence of any support network.
The same issue appears on the complementary protection side in different words. Section 36(2B)(a) removes a risk where it would be reasonable for the applicant to relocate to an area of the country where there would not be a real risk of significant harm. Our page on complementary protection under section 36(2)(aa) sets out that second ground, which should be run alongside the refugee ground wherever the facts allow.
Can you be expected to hide your religion, politics or sexuality to stay safe?
No, where the thing you would have to hide is innate, immutable or fundamental to your identity or conscience.
Section 5J(3) says a person does not have a well-founded fear if they could take reasonable steps to modify their behaviour to avoid the persecution, but it then carves out modifications that would conflict with a characteristic fundamental to identity or conscience, or that would conceal an innate or immutable characteristic. The subsection goes on to give examples of what cannot be required, including altering religious beliefs or concealing them, concealing true race, ethnicity, nationality or country of origin, altering political beliefs or concealing them, concealing a physical, psychological or intellectual disability, entering into or remaining in a marriage the person is opposed to, and altering or concealing sexual orientation, gender identity or intersex status.
For Indonesian claims the carve-out is decisive in conversion cases, in claims about leaving a faith, in Papuan political claims and in claims about sexual orientation and gender identity. A person cannot be sent home on the footing that they managed to stay safe by staying quiet. Our article on proving an LGBTI protection claim as an Indonesian student works through the evidence side of that argument.
Behaviour that is not fundamental to identity is a different matter. A person who could avoid harm by not returning to one particular village, where nothing about that choice conflicts with who they are, is in a weaker position.
What can disqualify an Indonesian applicant even if the fear is genuine?
Conduct can. Two separate provisions do the work and they are not the same thing.
Section 5H(2) excludes a person from being a refugee at all where there are serious reasons for considering that they have committed a crime against peace, a war crime or a crime against humanity, or committed a serious non-political crime before entering Australia, or been guilty of acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
Section 36(1C) is a separate criterion that must be satisfied for the grant of any protection visa. It is not met where the decision maker considers on reasonable grounds that the person is a danger to Australia's security, or that the person, having been convicted by final judgment of a particularly serious crime, is a danger to the Australian community.
Complementary protection has a parallel in section 36(2C), which uses similar language but operates as an ineligibility provision rather than an exception to Australia's non-refoulement obligations.
The practical lesson is about disclosure, not about panic. Most Indonesian applicants are nowhere near these provisions. Those who are, usually because of a criminal matter here or at home, need it raised and addressed in the material from the start, because it is far worse discovered at interview than explained in the application.
What happens if you could live safely in a third country?
Section 36(3) provides that Australia is taken not to have protection obligations to a person who has not taken all possible steps to avail themselves of a right to enter and reside in any country apart from Australia, however that right arose or is expressed, including countries of which the person is a national.
Sections 36(4), 36(5) and 36(5A) qualify that. Section 36(3) does not apply to a country where the person has a well-founded fear of persecution for a section 5J(1)(a) reason or faces a real risk of significant harm, or where they fear being returned from that country to a further country where they would face either.
The order matters. Under section 36A, protection obligations are assessed first, without regard to section 36(3), and third country protection is only considered once the applicant would otherwise meet the refugee or complementary protection criterion.
For Indonesian applicants this usually arises with a right of residence somewhere else, a second nationality, or long-term status in another country. If it exists, deal with it in the application rather than waiting to be asked.
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What happens after an Indonesian lodges the Subclass 866 application?
Two things happen quickly, and neither of them is the decision. You receive an acknowledgement through ImmiAccount that a valid application has been made, and you are granted a bridging visa that keeps you lawful while the Department works through the claim.
Which bridging visa you get depends on what you held on the day you lodged. A person who applies while still holding a substantive visa, such as a student, visitor or work visa, is granted a Bridging visa A. It does not come into effect on the day of grant. It sits behind the substantive visa and comes into effect when that visa ceases. A person who has already become unlawful cannot be granted a Bridging visa A, and applies instead for a Bridging visa E.
That sounds administrative. It is not. It decides whether you can work, it shapes how the Department reads the delay, and it is the strongest practical reason to lodge before a visa expires rather than after. Our article on whether delay affects a Subclass 866 protection claim deals with the credibility side of the same decision.
Can an Indonesian applicant work while the protection visa is being decided?
Yes, if you hold a Bridging visa A granted in association with the protection visa application. Clause 010.611(1)(b) of the Migration Regulations 1994 means condition 8101, the no work condition, cannot be imposed on a Bridging visa A held by a person whose protection visa application has not been finally determined. Work permission is not discretionary in that situation and you do not have to prove financial hardship to get it.
Bridging visa E is a different world. Where a Subclass 050 Bridging visa E is granted to a person who lodged after becoming unlawful, condition 8101 is commonly imposed, and getting a further Bridging visa E without it requires two things under subclause 050.212(8). The applicant must satisfy the Minister of a compelling need to work, which regulation 1.08 defines by reference to financial hardship. A protection visa applicant must also satisfy the Minister that the reasons for the delay in making the protection visa application are acceptable, unless they fall within a class specified by the Minister in an instrument.
Read those two paragraphs next to each other and the point is obvious. The same Indonesian applicant, with the same claim, has work rights as of right on one side of the line and has to argue for them on the other. The line is the day the substantive visa ceased. Our guides for Indonesian students applying for a Subclass 866 protection visa and for international students generally work through the timing in more detail.
What does not stop an Indonesian from applying?
Most of the things Indonesian clients believe will disqualify them do not. This is where the wrong assumption costs people their work rights and their credibility, because they wait.
A no further stay condition does not stop you. Condition 8503 in Schedule 8 of the Migration Regulations 1994 says the holder will not, after entering Australia, be entitled to be granted a substantive visa, other than a protection visa, while the holder remains in Australia. The protection visa exception is written into the condition. Conditions 8534 and 8535, which appear on many student visas, carve out protection visas in the same words. No waiver is needed and you do not have to leave Australia. What 8503 does block is a Subclass 820 partner visa or a student or skilled visa lodged onshore, and that is what a waiver is for.
The section 48 bar does not stop you. Section 48 prevents a person in Australia without a substantive visa, who has had a visa refused or cancelled since last entering, from applying for most visas. Protection visas remain available. A refused student visa or a cancelled visitor visa does not close this door. The separate section 48A bar is the one that bites, and only after a protection visa has itself been refused.
Your current visa does not stop you. Student visa holders, visitor visa holders, working holiday makers, sponsored workers and bridging visa holders can all lodge. Our article on applying for a Subclass 866 protection visa on a tourist visa covers the most common Indonesian entry route.
No referral and no recognition is needed. Nobody has to declare you a refugee before you apply. There is no queue to join and no agency to register with.
One warning belongs with all of that. The fact that a protection visa is the only application still open to you is not a reason to make one. An application made because every other door is shut, rather than because you fear return, will be refused, will sit on your record, and will trigger the section 48A bar for the rest of your time in Australia.
What happens at the protection visa interview?
Most Subclass 866 applications are decided after an interview with a delegate of the Minister, and for an Indonesian applicant that interview is usually where the case is won or lost.
The delegate is testing three things. Whether the account is consistent with everything already on your immigration record, including what you said when you applied for your student or visitor visa. Whether the detail holds up when it is examined out of order and in depth. And whether what you describe matches current country information about Indonesia.
Two practical points come out of that, and both are avoidable failures.
Ask for an interpreter in the language you actually think in. Bahasa Indonesia is offered as a matter of course. If your first language is Javanese, Sundanese, Batak, Acehnese or another regional language, say so before the day rather than struggling through and being recorded as inconsistent.
Do not leave the real reason until the interview. Late disclosure, of sexuality above all, is common among Indonesian applicants and it is survivable. It is survivable when it is explained, in writing, before the delegate has to notice it. Our page on the protection visa interview sets out how the day runs.
How long does an Indonesian protection visa application take?
Longer than almost anyone expects, and the timing is not something you can control. The Department does not publish a processing time for the Subclass 866 protection visa that can be relied on the way a partner visa timeframe can, because the caseload is driven by interview scheduling, country information and identity checks rather than by a queue.
What follows from that is practical, not philosophical. Chasing the Department does not move an application up. Lodging incomplete material and filling the gaps later does move it down, because the delegate stops, requests, waits and re-reads. The one part of the timeline within your control is how complete the claim is on the day it is lodged.
Stay contactable for the entire period. The Department communicates through ImmiAccount and by email, and time limits later in the process run from deemed receipt rather than from the day you read something. Our step by step ImmiAccount guide explains how to keep that account current if you change your address, phone or email.
What happens if an Indonesian protection visa is refused?
A refusal is not the end of the matter, but the window to act is short and it is strictly applied.
Most Subclass 866 refusals are reviewable by the Administrative Review Tribunal. The application for review must be made within the prescribed period, that period runs from the day you are taken to have received the decision rather than from the day you read it, and the Tribunal has no power to extend it. Miss it and the merits of your claim never get looked at again.
Some refusals do not go to the Tribunal on that path at all. A refusal relying on subsection 5H(2), subsection 36(1B), subsection 36(1C), paragraph 36(2C)(a) or (b), or section 501 is reviewable under section 500 instead, on an even shorter timeframe. If your refusal letter mentions any of those provisions, treat it as urgent on the day it arrives.
The Tribunal is a fresh hearing on the merits, not an appeal about whether the delegate was reasonable. New evidence is allowed, and the claim can be put properly for the first time. Our Subclass 866 protection visa refusal and ART guide sets out the process, our article on what to expect at ART review covers the hearing itself, and our protection visa refusals page sets out the service.
Note also what a refusal does to your options. Section 48A bars a further protection visa application in Australia, and only the Minister can lift it under section 48B. That is why the first application, not the second, is the one that has to be right.
What do Indonesian applicants most often get wrong?
Five errors account for most of the damage, and every one of them is fixable before lodgement.
Treating it as a form rather than a claim. The Subclass 866 application is a written case. The form is the container.
Waiting until the visa expires. It costs work rights, it invites an adverse view of the delay, and it changes nothing else in your favour.
Submitting a statement that reads like someone else's. Where a group of applicants from the same community lodge near-identical accounts, the Department notices, and the damage falls on the genuine claims in the group as well.
Leaving relocation and state protection unanswered. Section 5J(1)(c) and section 5LA are the two elements most often decided against Indonesian applicants, and silence is treated as an answer.
Taking advice from someone who cannot give it here. Only an Australian legal practitioner or a registered migration agent may give Australian immigration assistance. Advice from a friend, a community figure or an adviser overseas may be well meant and still be wrong, and the consequences land on your record, not theirs.
How My Migration Lawyers works on an Indonesian protection matter
We run the claim as a legal case built on the statutory elements, not as a story attached to a form.
In practice that means reading the whole immigration file first, including what was said in the student or visitor visa application, so that inconsistencies are identified and explained by us rather than discovered by the delegate. It means settling which protected reason the case runs on under section 5J and section 5L, and whether complementary protection under section 36(2)(aa) should run alongside it. It means drafting your statement so the elements the delegate has to be satisfied about are answered in order. It means gathering the country information and the supporting evidence that carries the claim, dealing with relocation and state protection before they are raised, preparing you for the interview, and handling the identity provisions in sections 91W and 91WA properly.
Weiwei Zhang, Principal Lawyer at My Migration Lawyers, acts on these matters. Consultations are held by video anywhere in Australia, and correspondence is by email so there is a written record of every step. You can read more about our protection visa practice and about Weiwei Zhang.
If you are Indonesian, you are in Australia, and you cannot safely go home, the next step is a consultation. Request a consultation or contact My Migration Lawyers and we will tell you what your position actually is before anything is lodged.
Frequently Asked Questions
I am Indonesian and my student visa expires next month. Should I wait until it runs out before applying?
No. Lodge while the student visa is still in effect. An Indonesian who applies while holding a substantive visa is granted a Bridging visa A, and clause 010.611(1)(b) of the Migration Regulations 1994 means the no work condition cannot be imposed on it while the protection visa application has not been finally determined. Applying after the visa expires means a Bridging visa E instead, where work permission has to be argued for under subclause 050.212(8). Waiting also invites questions about why the claim was raised only when the visa ran out.
My family is still in Indonesia. Can I include them in my application?
No. A protection visa can only be granted to a person who is in Australia, because clause 866.411 requires the applicant to be in Australia at the time of grant. Family members who are overseas cannot be included and cannot be granted the visa from Indonesia. A spouse, de facto partner or dependent child who is in Australia can be included as a member of the same family unit, but section 91WB requires them to have applied for the same class of protection visa before the visa is granted to you.
Do I need the United Nations to recognise me as a refugee first?
No. Referral by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees belongs to the offshore Refugee and Humanitarian Program for people outside Australia. It plays no part in a Subclass 866 protection visa application. Nobody has to register you, refer you or recognise you before you apply. A delegate of the Minister decides, applying sections 5H to 5LA and section 36 of the Migration Act 1958 to the material you lodge.
I am in Bali right now. Can I lodge from Indonesia and come later?
No. The Subclass 866 protection visa requires you to be in Australia to apply and to be in Australia when it is granted. The offshore refugee category visas are not an answer either, because the Subclass 200 and Subclass 203 visas run through referral by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, and the Subclass 202 Global Special Humanitarian visa requires the applicant to be living outside their home country and to have a proposer in Australia.
My Indonesian passport has expired. Does that stop me?
No. An expired passport does not make the application invalid. What matters is identity. Under sections 91W and 91WA the Minister can request documentary evidence of your identity, nationality or citizenship, and a refusal to comply, or a bogus document, without a reasonable explanation must be taken into account against you. Lodge with the documents you have, explain in writing what is missing and why, and deal with the gap in the application rather than at the interview.
I am Indonesian and my student visa was already refused. Is it too late?
No. Section 48 stops a person in Australia without a substantive visa, who has had a visa refused or cancelled since last entering, from applying for most visas, but protection visas remain available. A refused student visa or a cancelled visitor visa does not close this pathway. The bar that does close it is section 48A, and that applies only once a protection visa itself has been refused, which is why the first application has to be right.
Will the Indonesian government or my family be told that I applied?
The application is made to the Australian Department of Home Affairs and is decided on the material you lodge. Section 91X of the Migration Act 1958 requires courts and tribunals not to publish the name of a protection visa applicant in proceedings about the application. If you are worried about a particular person in Indonesia or in the Indonesian community in Australia learning about the claim, raise it at the consultation so the risk is managed from the start.
My visa has condition 8503, no further stay. Do I need a waiver first?
No. Condition 8503 says the holder will not, after entering Australia, be entitled to be granted a substantive visa, other than a protection visa, while the holder remains in Australia. The protection visa exception sits inside the condition, and conditions 8534 and 8535 work the same way. You do not need a waiver and you do not have to leave Australia. What 8503 blocks is a partner, student or skilled visa lodged onshore.
I am Indonesian and gay, and nobody in my family knows. Do I have to tell them to make a claim?
No. The claim is made to the Department, not to your family. Section 5J(3) means you cannot be required to conceal or alter your sexual orientation or gender identity in order to be safe, so concealment in Indonesia does not defeat the claim. What the application does need is evidence, and it can be built from sources that do not involve your family in Indonesia. Raise it at the outset rather than at the interview.

























